30 December 2010

Is Ringo culturally significant?

Is Ringo Starr’s birthplace of cultural significance? To some, certainly. But to some an alleyway where Ringo once urinated would probably be deemed of significance.

Are the houses in Liverpool where I lived significant? To me, perhaps. Are the houses where Ian McCulloch, Pete Burns, John Power or Rebecca Ferguson were brought up worth saving from the bulldozers when their time comes?

What about the buildings that were home to Adrian Henri, Alan Bleasdale or Jimmy McGovern? Or Tom Baker and the McGanns? Or John Aldridge and Steven Gerrard?? The list goes on. You can probably make a case for saving houses on most streets on Merseyside when the bulldozers are moved in. But is there any point?

Liverpool certainly has poor form when it comes to looking after its heritage, its Beatles heritage particularly - just look at how it treated the Cavern.

But National Heritage believes that Ringo’s former house on Madryn Street simply isn’t significant enough to be worth preserving.

You could question the significance of Mendips to the Beatles - run by the National trust - using that logic; or any of the other Beatles locations around the city.

And do pop culture locations really come under the remit of English Heritage? And having dipped its toe in the genre with the preservation of the Abbey Road zebra crossing and whacking blue plaques on everywhere Lennon visited, it’s a bit late to get all sniffy about Madryn Street’s supposed lack of significance.

Certainly people will probably show an interest in seeing these Beatles buildings, but does that make something innately valuable? And how exactly would you preserve a Victorian terrace in the middle of a brand new development?

The demolition of the Welsh streets at all seems rather sad, but what’s the point of preserving something simply for preservation’s sake? No-one appears to want to live there; although it’s not clear who is likely to redevelop the area.

All sorts of barmy solutions seem to be springing up: moving the house brick-by-brick among the most ridiculous. A more obvious solution might be to redevelop the existing buildings; then few, if any, houses would have to be demolished.

Here’s what English Heritage made of it:

“We did not recommend 9 Madryn Street for listing, however, as it lacks the undeniable Beatles connection of other sites, and is an otherwise unremarkable building historically and architecturally.”

What do you think?

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6 Comments so far

  1. david says:

    The genius - clearly - lay in the songsmithery, the gift for melody, and the inventiveness. We don’t commemorate the masons who built the cathedrals. We remember the architects. Both are important - but only few can really be said to bring that creative spark that ignites everything else. Sorry, it’s bulldozers at twelve o’clock. Unless you can get the fat controller to stall them. Peace and love. Peace and love.

  2. Daniel says:

    Ringo was the worst Beatle and has turned into a massive dick over the past few years with a clear disdain for his own heritage. Raze it to the ground.

  3. Rob Cotter says:

    The sensible thing to do would be to sell off each individual brick, roof tile etc at a premium to the Americans/Japanese and use the money to erect a giant bronze statue of Peter O’Halligan at the end of Matthew Street.

  4. Peter says:

    He only lived there until he was three. Knock it down.

  5. Rob Cotter says:

    Its game on as Grant Shapps Housing Minister and Conservative MP for, er Welwyn Hatfield wades in.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/02/ringo-starr-childhood-home

    I wonder if he’s ever been to the Dingle?

    KNOCK IT DOWN!!!

  6. Chris Coals says:

    The funny thing is that some houses nearby WON’T be demolished now because of the cuts that Shapps and company have implemented.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12006404

    Perhaps if Shapps tightened the thumbs screws a little more Liverpool City Council would be forced to back pedal (!!)

    Such is the perverse logic of it all — less send in the bulldozers, more send in the clowns.


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